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Altounyan is categorised category:natives. This raises an interesting problem: it makes Arthur Ransome a native. I have categorised people like Mrs Walker or Cook as natives,. and towns like Windermere as native locations, so I don't see why Altounyan isn't native, but I don't know how to distinguish between fictional natives and real ones now. What do you think? Nankai 06:23, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
- One way would be to sub-categorise Natives into Real natives and Fictional natives. AdamQ 20:20, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
Links to Wikipedia
Nice work on Literary allusions and historical references tidying up the wikipedia links. It is certainly more elegant, but I don't object to the odd link reading Wikipedia: Alfred, Lord Tennnyson (for example) as it highlights the link's external-to-this-wiki-ness as well as promoting Wikipedia, to which we are complementary, according to the stated aims of this wiki.
But we don't on the other hand want to write like this:
I'd say it like this:
'"Walter Raleigh was a friend of Elizabeth I of England and they both feature in Swallows and Amazons."
How do people feel about a style that Wikipedia links be presented as
and generally never in-line with other text?
Nankai 19:43, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
I can see your point, but I really don't really like the Wikipedia: Walter Raleigh construction and would prefer in-line links even if they are to Wikipedia rather than AR Wiki. The separated See Also: type of links would be OK in small doses but I would not be happy to see a whole string of them after a long article. AdamQ 20:17, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
I recategorised several articles, for example Steven Spurrier, Roger Altounyan previously categorised as "natives" to various subheadings of newly-created category: Real people. The hierarchy goes something like this:
- Ransome family
- Ransome associates
- Collingwood family
- Altounyan family
- Collingwood family
The existing category: Natives is a subcat of category: characters so it is clear that eg Rupert Hart-Davis ain't a Native. As for native things, I think they have to be mentioned in a book of the Swallows and Amazons series to be so classified on this Wiki, so a Primus is a native artifact but a mobile phone isn't.Nankai 20:54, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
Littoral Aleutians and hysterical reverends
Great work Adam and John on Literary allusions and historical references. My deepest apology for the Cortez outrage: not everything is Masefield! I was told once that Spanish Ladies was by Masefield and gave the teller a bit of a scolding so I should know better. Eventually I want to create a list of chapter footnotes for each chapter of each book. I think that will be possible by searching for (eg) "SA1". I'm also keen to translate the Japanese chapter footnotes (there are plenty!) Nankai 00:45, November 7, 2009 (UTC)